Tunc optimum erit ut christianissimus hoc fedus petat velle inire; hoc modo etiam si aliquando noluissent esse…

BnF Dupuy 468 · contributed by George Lasry · Latin

Ernestus dux and Joachimus; probably Ernst of Brunswick-Lüneburg and Joachim von Maltzan to Francis I, King of France, Eve of Saint Paul, at five in the morning; no year. Context suggests c.1518–1520;1519 remains

Francis I
toFrancis I

A German princely league would admit new members by majority consent, promise pensions, and later bring in the French king. Deciphered by George Lasry, working with ChatGPT Astra 6 and Anthropic Opus 5.5, in his BnF cipher research of October 2026: 684 elements, 660 identified (96.5%).

George Lasry · posted · updated

Method: key recovered based on adjacent plaintext · Extent: partial (98% of the cipher)

Contributed by George Lasry (solution)

George Lasry’s decipherment

George Lasry’s report on this item, as he sent it on 24 October 2026 (PDF), in its own order and wording. The decipherment, the translation and the reconstruction of the key are his, made with ChatGPT Astra 6 and Anthropic Opus 5.5. This project’s own checks follow under Verification.

Dupuy 468

Contents: A German princely league would admit new members by majority consent, promise pensions, and later bring in the French king.

2/3 pages transcribed; 1 more in part; 2/2 cipher pages deciphered

Ciphertext-only:
No
Sender:
Ernestus dux and Joachimus; probably Ernst of Brunswick-Lüneburg and Joachim von Maltzan
Recipient:
Francis I, King of France
Year:
Eve of Saint Paul, at five in the morning; no year. Context suggests c.1518–1520;1519 remains plausible.
Key:
30 symbols, 20 letter signs, 6 in nomenclature, 3 nulls?, 1 unidentified
Ciphertext:
684 elements, 660 identified (96.5%)
Interlinear plaintext:
Interlinear decipherment accompanies most cipher runs on f28r–v,PDF65– 66/Gallica63–64.
The reconstructed key, from George Lasry’s report.
The reconstructed key, from George Lasry’s report. Image: key reconstructed by George Lasry (report, 24 October 2026); sign images: Bibliothèque nationale de France, Dupuy 468, via Gallica.

Excerpt and Translation

f28r, final four cipher lines

The manuscript lines of the excerpt (f28r, final four cipher lines). Gallica f28r.
The manuscript lines of the excerpt (f28r, final four cipher lines). Gallica f28r. Image: Bibliothèque nationale de France, Dupuy 468, f28r, via Gallica; crop from George Lasry’s report.

Excerpt

Tunc optimum erit ut christianissimus hoc fedus petat velle inire; hoc modo etiam si aliquando noluissent esse in federe cu[m] christianissimo, hoc modo astricti erunt esse confederatores christianissimi.

Translation

Then it will be best for the Most Christian King to ask to join this alliance. In this way, even if some had not wished to ally themselves with him, they will be bound to become his allies.

Readable text

The full text, folio by folio, as in the report. Bold marks the passages deciphered from the cipher; the rest is the clear text of the letter. Question marks are the report’s: [?] or a bare ? for a sign or group left unread, a ? after a word for a doubtful reading.

Dupuy 468

f28r

Invictissime potentissime ac christianissime Rex ac domine domine observandissime. Post humilimam atque humilimam commendationem Mti vestre certiorem reddimus nos ambos salvos ac fortunatos venisse in opidum Cerbest et ibi erant simul Maurit(us)? Saxo marchio dux de Luneburg ambo duces de Meklenburg et multi alii [?] ego filius ducis de Luneburg tractatum cum patre meo ad partem et ego Iochin? ut proposui marchioni conmiss[i]onem meam In presentia ducis de Luneburg unius? de Meklenburg et consortii mei, quia marchioni sic placuit, conclusio hec est: marchio cum auxilio ducis de Luneburg [?] et prefati ducis de Meklenburg faciet totis viribus ut fedus concludatur quam? cito? fuerit possibile, est [?] ipsis? omnibus melius et utilius pro christianissimo videtur, ut primo de christianissimo nulla fiat mentio, sed inter eos et qui inter Germanie principes attrahi possunt fiat fedus [?] et unus articulu[s] inponetur ut nullus alius in istud fedus acceptaretur nisi maiore parte confederatorum consen[t]iente et quemcumque maior pars admitteret aut q[?]? consentiret ut minor pars admitteret et consentire teneretur. Deinde poterit paulatim tractari cum his qui non dum habent speciale fedus aut singulare amiciciam cum christianissimo ut speciale fedus fiat aut amicitia, ac tandem ubi securum sit quod longe maior pars erit et conservet? pro christianissimo tunc optimum erit ut christianissimus hoc fedus petat velle inire hoc modo etiam si aliquando noluissent esse in federe cu[m] christianissimo hoc modo astricti erunt esse confederatores christianissimi. Vestre prudentie [?]?

f28v

Nos omnino speramus quod fiet ut cito faciemus maiorem ligam et confederacionem in favorem christianissimi, quod fit in tota Germania . Sed oportet omnino ut marchio dux de Luneburg omnino consultum ut aliquis etiam nobis necesse et consultavidetur ut hiis qui non habent a christianissimo pensionem ipsis promittatur . Et videtur marchio consultum ut conso[r]te? nobis gallum christianissimus non mittat principem? pro posse? sed nobis [?] duobus autoritatem det p[ri]vatis? principibus promittendi donec quando fedus inter eos factum sit ac temporibus erit ut christianissimus ingrediatur. Deinde christianissimus poterit mittere ad placitum cuius? [?]

De ista materia [?] Nos minore suspicione faciemus [?] Majestas vestra intelliget haec ex litteris quas ego conscripsi ad dominum Cancellarium et de addenda? inclusa [?] majestati vestre [?] significavimus, restat nos majestati vestre humilime atque humiliter commendamus quam optimus maximus felicissime conservat?

Data in vigilia sancti Pauli in mane hora quinta.

f29r

Humillimi servitores,

Ernestus dux etc.

Joachimus etc.

At a glanceKey from adjacent plaintext · partial (98% of the cipher)

The letter
Ernestus dux and Joachimus (probably Ernst of Brunswick-Lüneburg and Joachim von Maltzan) to Francis I, dated “Eve of Saint Paul, five in the morning”, no year (c. 1519 is George Lasry’s inference). A German princely league would admit members by majority and later bring in the French king.
Where
BnF Dupuy 468, f. 28r–v (Gallica btv1b10035959t, view 63).
The cipher
30 symbols: 20 letter signs, 6 in nomenclature, 3 possible nulls and 1 unidentified.
How it was read
George Lasry rebuilt the key using the interlinear decipherment on most cipher runs of the page. Our check matched one line (in oppidum) to his table and the interlinear.
What it says
It will be best for the Most Christian King to ask to join the alliance, so that even reluctant members are bound to become his allies.
Still open
24 of 684 elements are unidentified; one page is only partly transcribed. The date is an inference.
Credit
Deciphered by George Lasry, working with ChatGPT Astra 6 and Anthropic Opus 5.5 (BnF cipher research, October 2026).

01 Verification

Spot-check against the manuscript

This result is George Lasry’s. This project did not re-solve the cipher: it checked one sample against the Gallica image and recorded what it found.

02 Other contributions

The plaintext of the period beside the cipher, as George Lasry reports it:

Interlinear plaintext
Interlinear decipherment accompanies most cipher runs on f28r–v,PDF65– 66/Gallica63–64.

Full texts

The transcription and the decryption of every document on this page, so that the reading can be used and checked. Short files are shown here; all are in the repository.

George Lasry's report entry (excerpts and translation) read in part

A German princely league would admit new members by majority consent, promise pensions, and later bring in the French king. Signed Ernestus dux and Joachimus (probably Ernst of Brunswick-Lüneburg and Joachim von Maltzan) to Francis I, King of France, on the eve of Saint Paul with no year (c. 1519 by Lasry's inference), as given in George Lasry's report.

Builds coherent sentences, but under the read bar of 95% of words read as sense (96% here); the holes are marked in the reading.

Decryption: in full above, in George Lasry’s decipherment (readable.md)

Reading: in full above, in George Lasry’s decipherment (readable.md)

Translation: in full above, in George Lasry’s decipherment (translation_excerpt.md)

03 Sources